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Civic Type R FK8 Brakes FAQ
2017-2019 Front rotors: 350x32mm (13.8x1.26”), non-directional ventilated (pillar vanes), cross-drilled, non-floating
2020-2021 Front rotors: 350x32mm (13.8x1.26”), non-directional ventilated (pillar vanes), plain, 2-piece floating
2017+ Rear rotors: 305x11mm (12x0.43”), solid, plain, non-floating
Front: Brembo 4 piston aluminum calipers. Piston size: 40mm x 4. External dust boot
Rear: ATE single piston calipers. Piston size: 38mm
2017-2019 Front rotor: 24.5 lbs / 11.1 kg (per rotor)
2020-2021 Front rotor: 22.1 lbs / 10 kg (per rotor)
2017-2021 Rear rotor: 11.8 lbs / 5.4 kg (per rotor)
Front caliper: 7.9 lbs / 3.6 kg (per caliper)
2017-2019 Front rotor: 45251-TV8-E02
2020-2021 Front rotor: 45251-TGH-A01
2017+ Rear rotor: 42510-TGH-A00
2017-2019 Front pads: 45022-TGH-A01 / 45022-TGH-A02
2020+ Front pads: 45022-TGH-A12
2017-2019 Rear pads: 43022-TGH-A01
2020+ Rear pads: 43022-TGH-A11
Front caliper (left): 45019-TV8-E01
Front caliper (right): 45018-TV8-E01
Front caliper seal and dust boot kit: 01463-TV8-E02
Rear caliper (left): 43019-TGH-A01 / 43019-TGH-A02
Rear caliper (right): 43018-TGH-A01 / 43018-TGH-A02
Rear caliper dust boot kit: 43214-TBA-A01
Brake master cylinder: 46101-TGH-306
• Substantial grooving in the rotors (uniform circular pattern/grooves on friction surface)
• More prone to cracking around drilled holes (applicable to 17-19 Type R only)
• Pebbles or small rocks stuck between the rotor and the heat shield, more noticeable at low speeds/in reverse
The lifespan of any rotors depends on a few variables, including the intended use, driving habit, brake pad compound, etc. If properly bedded-in, the rotors and pads can last significantly longer.
Rotors should be replaced when they are close to, or have reached the minimum thickness. Rotors that are too thin will not work as designed due to the inadequate mass/thermal capacity.
Front rotor thickness: New: 32mm (1.26”). Service limit: 30mm (1.18”)
Rear rotor thickness: New: 11mm (0.43”). Service limit: 9mm (0.35”)
Replace the rotors if there are excessive cracks around the cross-drilled holes, or excessive thermal cracks on the rotor surface. Refer to the following link for more information: https://paragonbrakes.com/rotor-inspection-and-maintenance/
NOTE:
• Replace both rotors (left and right) as a set
Pads should be replaced when they are close to, or have reached the minimum thickness. Brake pads that are down to 2mm are considered fully worn.
Front pad thickness: New: 15.0 mm (0.59”). Service limit: 2 mm (0.079”)
Rear pad thickness: New: 14.5 mm (0.57”). Service limit: 2 mm (0.079”)
CAUTION:
• Pad thickness (inner and outer pads) must be checked before any track day
• Do not include the thickness of the backing plates
• Melted caliper dust boots/seals. Rubber eventually deteriorates under extreme heat. Extended sessions and heavy/improper brake use will accelerate the process
• Discolor of calipers (“brownbos”). OEM calipers tend to turn from red to brown, or even black after being exposed to high temperature conditions. An effective and economical solution to this issue is using titanium pad shims to reduce heat transfer from the pads to the calipers
• Pad smearing. 17-19 OEM pads are known for this issue, especially in the front. The OEM pads tend to overheat quickly at the race track and leave uneven pad deposits on the rotors. The variations in disc thickness could lead to brake judder/vibration. 2020+ models are equipped with different pads that are more fade resistant, which lower the chance of pad smearing
• The Civic Type R is equipped with advanced systems like Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) and Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD). Brake pressure is applied to certain wheels to assist with turn-in/cornering, and to maintain stability. However, this may lead to overheated brakes and increased wear rate
Stock FK8 brakes are decent, but are not designed to handle heavy track use. Repeated stops at the track can overheat and smear the pads, which will lead to uneven deposits and/or vibrations. Cooling efficiency of stock rotor is not good enough for the task. Depending on the intended use, driving habit, personal preference, and budget, the following options are available:
• Pads with higher effective temperature range/fade resistance + high temp brake fluid: the most cost effective way to prep the vehicle for track. Recommended: Paragon P3/R5 front pads, P2/P3 rear pads, ATE Type 200 (Super Blue) / Motul RBF600/RBF660 / Endless RF650 / Castrol SRF brake fluid
• High performance 2-piece rotors + track pads + brake fluid: a significant upgrade from the stock setup. Will last longer and outperform OEM brakes in all aspects. Recommended: Paragon front and rear 2-piece rotors + track pads + high temp fluid
• Front big brake kit + rear 2-piece rotors + track pads + brake fluid: ultimate track/race performance. The OEM Brembo front calipers are not dedicated for track, and there are certain limitations for example the rotor size. A proper BBK will be able to address these issues. Recommended: Paragon Track Performance front BBK
* Stainless steel braided brake lines and titanium pad shims can be added at any point
Paragon carries replacement rotor rings (friction rings) for the 2020+ stock front center hats. These outer rings will bolt on to the OEM hats and come with new bobbins, bolts, nuts, and spring clips for a complete rebuild. For more info: https://paragonbrakes.com/replacement-rotors-for-2020-honda-civic-type-r-fk8-oem-hats-front-pair/
Front and rear rotor flathead retaining screw: 7 lbf-ft / 9.5 Nm
Front caliper to knuckle bolt: 103 lbf-ft / 140 Nm
Front brake line to caliper fitting: 11 lbf-ft / 15 Nm
Front caliper bleed screw: 10 lbf-ft / 14 Nm
Rear caliper to knuckle bolt: 80 lbf-ft / 108 Nm
Rear caliper pin bolt: 18 lbf-ft / 25 Nm
Rear brake line to caliper banjo bolt: 13 lbf-ft / 17 Nm
Rear caliper bleed screw: 13 lbf-ft / 17 Nm
Wheel lug nut torque spec: 94 lbf-ft / 127 Nm
Begin with the caliper farthest from the master cylinder. Bleed the outboard bleed screw first, then the inboard bleed screw on each caliper. Repeat the procedure until all calipers in the system are bled, ending with the caliper closest to the master cylinder.
LHD vehicles: RH rear bleeder → LH rear bleeder → RH front outer bleeder → RH Front inner bleeder → LH front outer bleeder → LH front inner bleeder
RHD vehicles: LH rear bleeder → RH rear bleeder → LH front outer bleeder → LH front inner bleeder → RH front outer bleeder → RH Front inner bleeder